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Topic: what am i?

Anonymous A started this discussion 6.2 years ago #2,709

i am having a massive identity crisis. i believe identity is a result of randomness, but people don't operate on that level. they want to use name, sex, age, etc to classify me and i have a problem with that. i do not own these things, yet they want me act like they are mine.

dr-robert joined in and replied with this 6.2 years ago, 48 minutes later[^] [v] #0

Hi, Anon A--

Yes. I understand this. I agree with you that identity is a result of randomness. In fact, I have used to write a lot about that here--and usually provoked quite a bit of pushback and even anger when I did.

Here is my advice: stay true to your idea about choicelessness. It is a deep idea which can lead to profound understanding. But, since most people are totally identified with and totally defensive of those things which you say, rightly in my view, are random, you will only confuse, upset, and anger them if you discuss it that way.

People who have seen what you see need to learn how to take all of this human comedy as the costume party it is. Most do not understand that they are wearing a mask because they are completely identified with the mask. You have a bit more freedom: choose the mask you want or need depending upon circumstances, and be at peace.

Google the word "persona," which is the root of the English word "person." Persona in Greek means "mask," and it referred to the masks that actors in ancient Greek theater wore to perform. A "person" is not a fact, but a fiction, created by culture and society. The body is real. Our thoughts about it are not.

Be well.

Molly joined in and replied with this 6.2 years ago, 4 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #0

To OP:

It's pretty weird to find out you are not really a "I am". I would love to hear your personal story.

For me,in the beginning it felt like being unplugged from 'The Matrix'. I actually needed support because of this. It was frustrating in a way,'seeing' when no one else is seeing. I highly suggest a support system,until you feel at ease with this.

Like Dr Robert said,people actually get mad if you talk about it,OR they think you are insane. My FB page is Molly AndFamily (AndFamily being one word). I only use my page for this type of support.You aren't alone. There are countless people before you who were brave enough to ask the ,"who am I" question,and to investigate it all the way down to a quantum level,even. You'd be amazed how many people have figured this out for thousands of years prior,now,and will continue. You aren't walking "The Matrix" unplugged alone. After a while,you'll be OK to be your personality,just without taking it so seriously anymore. You can't help that you are highly conditioned,and it formed your particular personality. What I do is when I feel my personality make a judgement,I have to step back and ask..who am I to make this judgment? Only my conditioned self is making this judgement,so feel it,because I can't help it,then let it go,because it will always be distorted.

Work on becoming comfortable with your conditioned personality,and by knowing it's nothing more then that..a conditioned personality,let it go by not taking it so seriously.

Let people think what only they are capable of.It has nothing to do with you.They have to deal with THEIR own limitations.:)

"To the as-yet-unborn, to all innocent wisps of undifferentiated nothingness: Watch out for life. I have caught life. I have come down with life. I was a wisp of undifferentiated nothingness, and then a little peephole opened quite suddenly. Light and sound poured in. Voices began to describe me and my surroundings. Nothing they said could be appealed. They said I was a boy named Rudolph Waltz, and that was that. They said the year was 1932, and that was that. They said I was in Midland City, Ohio, and that was that. They never shut up. Year after year they piled detail upon detail. They do it still. You know what they say now? They say the year is 1982, and that I am fifty years old. Blah blah blah..." ~ Kurt Vonnegut, in "Deadeye Dick"

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dr-robert replied with this 6.2 years ago, 26 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #0

Good post, Molly. Helpful.

T joined in and replied with this 6.2 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #0

This is such a great post. I can relate so much. I have had severe identity crisis forever. It's almost like a fantasy land at times and I must agree about the conditioned part. Great words there Molly. I always liked the saying, they can house my body, but they can't house my soul. I love the idea/feeling of choicelessness. It allows me to be so free from this conditioned and shallow enslavement (ego) called the world. It kind of sucks though because I have to go to work - to pay bills - so we can live, so we can die. Uuuuuuuuuugh ;o)

T double-posted this 6.2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #0

I would like to share this if I may. It helps me a lot sometimes.

Quotes from the Peaceful Warrior

1. There are no ordinary moments.

2. This moment is the only thing that matters.

3. Wake up! If you knew for certain you had a terminal illness...if you had little time left to would waste precious little of it. Well, I'm telling do have a terminal illness: It's called birth. You don't have more than a few years left. No one does! So be happy now, without reason...or you will never be at all.

4. The first realization of a warrior is not knowing.

5. Every action has it's pleasure and it's price.

6. You haven't yet opened your heart fully, to life, to each moment. The peaceful warrior's way is not about invulnerability, but absolute the world, to life, and to the Presence you felt. All along I've shown you by example that a warrior's life is not about imagined perfection or victory; it is about love. Love is a warrior's sword; wherever it cuts, it gives life, not death.

7. Find the love in what you do.

8. Everything has a purpose. It's up to you to find it.

9. If you don't get what you want, you suffer; if you get what you don't want, you suffer; even when you get exactly what you want, you still suffer because you can't hold on to it forever. Your mind is your predicament. It wants to be free of change. Free of pain, free of the obligations of life and death. But change is law and no amount of pretending will alter that reality.

10. Some people live their whole lives without ever waking up.

11. Knowledge is not the same as wisdom.

12. Moderation? It's mediocrity, fear and confusion in disguise. It's the devil's dilemma. It's neither doing nor not doing. It's the wobbling compromise that makes no one happy. Moderation is for the bland, the apologetic, for the fence-sitters of the world afraid to take a stand. It's for those afraid to laugh or cry, for those afraid to live or die. lukewarm tea, the devil's own brew.

13. I call myself a Peaceful Warrior...because the real battles we fight are on the inside.

14. Find your answers from inside.

15. Pain is a relatively objective, physical phenomenon; suffering is our psychological resistance to what happens. Events may create physical pain but they do not in themselves create suffering. Resistance creates suffering. Stress happens when your mind resists what is...the only problem in your life is your mind's resistance to life as it unfolds.

16. Those who are hardest to love are the ones who need it most.

17. Throw out everything that is keeping you from this moment.

18. Where are you? Here. What time is it? Now. What are you? This moment.

19. There is never nothing going on.

20. Three principles of reality: Paradox, Humor, and Change.

21. There is only the journey.

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Molly joined in and replied with this 6.2 years ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

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Hahaha!!! We still have to work. Haha!

I shovel crap all day between my kitty,& baby. Here is a good one for me to use,"who is it that thinks this stinks?" lol Without an inflamed ego,makes shit work equal to anything else. :)

Love the quotes!!!

Molly replied with this 6.2 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

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> It allows me to be so free from this conditioned and shallow enslavement (ego) called the world. It kind of sucks though because I have to go to work - to pay bills - so we can live, so we can die.

Hi T-,

Between you in another post saying you a sensitive being,plus this statement, I can't help but to share with you a poem I read this morning. Of course,I connected it right away with you. Ed Conely is a philosopher,and uses metaphors always. Metaphors aren't for everyone,but non the less it reminded me of your post I read this

Let us be Koi

"Fish swim only in the moment
so wherever they swim they are always just swimming now.

They cannot see the pond from my bench
so they have no idea that they are in a small pond
no bigger then a drop.

And so each of us lives in our own drop of life,
but our anguish comes
when we compare our drop to the ocean.

It could be bigger, we think.

And so we compare our drop
to the alternate world that we could be in
and imagine it would be so much better.

We are unhappy now
swimming where we are
in this body/mind of the Now.

And yet, no matter how hard we swim,
we cannot escape our drop,
for we take our drop with us.

For those that can see,
our drop is the ocean,
and the ocean is our drop." -Ed Conely

(I had commented,"Thank you. I can feel it.")

@Molly: I've discovered in my life, to stick with the metaphor of the drop, that if you swim in your drop through and through, that is swimming comfortably and at ease in your small ordinary existence, if you just do that, your drop will expand as you need it to expand, just as a plant when it reaches the end of its pot would like a bigger pot. So one expands their drop by accepting one's drop, and by accepting one's drop, one is also accepting the ocean.

Molly double-posted this 6.2 years ago, 44 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

The song,"The Yellow Submarine" JUST came to mind. I must listen to the Beatles now..

Molly triple-posted this 6.2 years ago, 51 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

OK. I obviously do not want to clean house while kids are napping/school. I found this depiction of,"The Yellow Submarine." I like it!:)

In the town where I was born lived a man who sailed to sea
And he told us of his life in the land of submarines

(The ocean, the source of life, is the land of submarines)

So we sailed up to the sun till we found the sea of green
And we lived beneath the waves in our yellow submarine

(green = life, yellow is muted or modified green, the human perception.)

Our friends are all on board many more of them live next door
And the band begins to play

(Human life activities. The yellow submarine clearly means society contained in nature [the sea].)

As we live a life of ease everyone of us has all we need
Sky of blue and sea of green in our yellow submarine

(this is a message of hope that society can live peacefully in nature.)

Cassandra joined in and replied with this 6.2 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

Molly, you would make an excellent therapist.
I re-read things you wrote often.
You understand things on a very deep level.

Molly replied with this 6.2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

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That's why I always liked talking to you,because so do you.

You make me feel loved. Thank you.

Cassandra replied with this 6.2 years ago, 43 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

You can still talk to me!

T replied with this 6.2 years ago, 9 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

Hi Molly. I love Let us be Koi! When I really try and live like that I feel so much better Thank you for thinking about me. I found another cool one on a Facebook page. Chk it out. Take care :o)

How to Escape the Matrix
By Edwin Harkness Spina

The Matrix was one of the most popular and thought-provoking movies of all time. Viewers all over the world were captivated by the film’s primary message: People get into deep trouble when t
hey mistake what they perceive for reality.

What most viewers do not realize is that prior to the release of this groundbreaking film, western intelligence agencies were already using the term "the Matrix" to describe today's world. This was in contrast to their work with remote viewers, who would "escape the matrix" to gather intelligence. Art truly does imitate life.

In the movie, the Matrix is an elaborate Artificial Intelligence computer simulation that's so captivating that people mistake it for reality. People perceive they are walking about and interacting with others, but their physical bodies are actually submerged in fluid-filled pods, "plugged into" the Matrix, while their vital life force is harnessed to power the Matrix.

After Neo (Keanu Reaves) learns the truth, with the help of Morpheus's (Lawrence Fishburne) training, he is able to overcome his misconception that the Matrix is reality. Neo rebels against the machines that create his false reality and, eventually, he escapes the limitations of the Matrix. To others, he has developed superhuman abilities, but, "in reality," he has merely recognized the truth.

Escaping the Matrix is a metaphor for the mystic path to enlightenment.

The Matrix can be defined as the world that we perceive, which includes the physical world, as well as higher planes of emotions and thoughts, which also affect us.

Within the Matrix are countless fear-based thoughts and emotions that condition us to accept limitations. We are taught that we have little power, and what little power we do have, we are advised to delegate to authority figures and experts. Swimming in a sea of negative thoughts, we are prompted to use our creative ability to imagine even more negative thoughts. Without introspection, the Matrix gets darker and more dense.

Anyone who blindly accepts these prevalent, negative thoughts will have his or her life path dictated by the Matrix.

But those who recognize that it is our collective thoughts and beliefs that power the Matrix will recognize the way out.

When we incarnate on earth, we temporarily forget the higher truth of who we are. Our life mission is to remember, to connect with our innermost self, so that we may transcend the Matrix.

The reality we perceive with our senses is not the true reality, but merely a small portion of reality, masquerading as the whole. But, unlike the "alternate reality" that Neo must extricate himself from, in our "reality," there is no need to rebel. Rather, our goal should be to transcend. We want to "be in this world, but not of it."

The outer world is a reflection of our inner thoughts and beliefs, whether individual or collective, which have been conditioned by our experience in the Matrix. Consequently, the Matrix is a learning environment, where we get feedback on how our thoughts manifest. Thankfully, our negative thoughts do not (typically) manifest instantaneously. Otherwise, we would risk the spontaneous destruction of our world by thinking negative thoughts.

Using Meditation to Escape the Matrix

Clearing yourself of negative energies through daily meditation can provide a direct link to the "ultimate reality," i.e., the pure consciousness residing within each of us. As your negative beliefs are purified through regular contact with the "light" of your divine nature, unhealthy emotions, such as fear and anger, will naturally begin to diminish, and you’ll be free to transcend to higher states of consciousness. You will "download" more of your own true self, while simultaneously and automatically attracting others of similar vibration.

Your world will become more synchronistic. You will repel angry, fearful people, and those who stick around will become calmer and more centered. You will radiate love. By simply being in higher consciousness, you will have a greater effect on the world than the most gifted orators and political leaders.

The higher your consciousness and energy are vibrating, the faster your thoughts will manifest. When you align with your innermost self, you are aligned more closely with the Source of all creation. At the apex of your individual consciousness, you are connected with The One. You then have at your disposal the entire universe to help you manifest the highest good for all.

In actuality, we are single points of awareness in the Oneness that is Reality. What we interpret as the physical world is the projection of this awareness, which is taking place in the Mind of God. We are, as Shakespeare pointed out, merely "actors" in a divine play.

When we wake up to this knowledge, the play does not stop. We are free to act or interact, in bliss and peace, unattached to the Matrix. We have within us the power to create "heaven on earth."

T double-posted this 6.2 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #0

I think I'll share this with the whole site. I hope that's ok.

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