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Topic: surgery and bipolar/mood issues

EvangelineMade started this discussion 6 years ago #1,491

Supposed to have a hysterectomy week after next. Have the option of losing my ovaries. Wasn't gonna (I'm 39), but psychiatrist (not E) said I could (no guarantee) lose some/all mood issues if I get them removed.

Tried looking online, but evidence is conflicting.

Anyone have any direct experience worth sharing???

Jennifer joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #0

maybe I should cut my shit out

Cassandra joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #0

No, but sounds like online research of credible sites beats one psychiatrist.

EvangelineMade (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #0

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That's just it - it seems the "evidence" either way is anecdotal. Is it worth the risk? Maybe... it's too tempting.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #0

Hi, I am 49 years old with bipolar/mood issues my therapist, psychiatrist, and OBGYN all three said no to removing my ovaries when I had my hysterectomy. All three agreed that the loss of hormones would affect my moods having a greater impact on my life.

Cassandra replied with this 6 years ago, 36 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #0

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Are you going to be depressed and angry when it doesn't?
So, it all boils down to being a woman. Castrate her and she'll be normal.
Some misogyny, perhaps?

Me (K) joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 40 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #0

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seriously.

EvangelineMade (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 week later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #0

Well, I decided to get the ovaries removed too.

I read a bunch, and talked to several women, and two psych nurses, and I'm gonna do it.

Me (K) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #0

I can't have an opinion on something I know so little about. I will say though from studying biology mood disorders definitely are genetic. Hormonal wise there is a debate amongst the science community regarding this. there is no concrete answer. Some scientists believe there are myths associated with female hormones starting long ago to degrade their mental competencies in comparison to men (I lean more towards this just a little). I, personally, believe mood disorders are more than hormonal or genetic. I think Nurture has a huge bearing on how our moods work. The brain starts forming in the womb, even how a woman treats her body and feeds herself while she is pregnant can cause the brain to form in certain ways. That is nurture/nature at it's best. Definitely a symbiotic relationship. Even if a mother is yelling and stressed during pregnancy it will cause certain defects in the child, even down to how symmetrical the child's face will be. It's fascinating. Terrifying at it's best how easy it is to screw up our children even before they are technically in this world.

It is completely a personal choice what you do. There is no hard evidence mood disorders are a result of hormonal problems. Any mood change from this is usually temporary and mild if at all. Scientists are debating if even the "moodiness" with periods isn't a constructed idea created by society to further perpetuate the belittling of women's mental stability/ability to make logical decisions. it has also been used to "prove" men think more logically and are supposedly more even tempered.. and we know that is just not that case.

Also, depending on your childhood... how your mood changes depending on the situation and what is going on with you is highly dependent on how you reacted to abuse growing up. Or, the influences your parents had. For instance, if your mother went in to a screaming fit as a child and caused huge anxiety that might cause fluctuations in mood as a child. Never knowing when your parent is going to be loving again. There are SO many variables. I just do not think cutting one out will make a substantial change in the problem, because there are so many factors to be considered..

But in the end, it's your choice. Depends on if you want anymore children, how you feel about your body. How important it is to you to keep them. But I wouldn't expect a HUGE change in mood issues if I were you. I hope you come up with a decision that is beneficial and satisfying to you.

EvangelineMade (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #0

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I had read bipolar girl, but thanks for that and the new one. :)

In E's waiting room now. Why the fuck am I nervous?!?!

Jennifer replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #0

I know my pms moodiness isnt fake. I get that way when I can't fit into my jeans, when my skin is sensitive to touch, and omg cramps! All that makes me moody.

Me (K) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #0

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Right. So it's not hormonal. It's your reaction to how your hormones are affecting you. Sort of like a prolonged bad day. You can't fit into your jeans. your skin is sensitive so THAT makes you moody. It's the results of the periods that make you moody not the periods themselves. That would look like: I am having moods for no reason at all. It is just a random result of my period. I don't get moody during my periods b/c these things don't bother me as much. It depends on the person. So it's how the person deals with the effects of the periods. Not the periods themselves.

Jennifer replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #0

I will be so happy when I'm 50 and have had plastic surgery to take care of the wrinkles.

Me (K) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #0

there are a few things I want done. Not gonna lie.

JenniferS7887 joined in and replied with this 5.3 years ago, 8 months later, 8 months after the original post[^] [v] #0

I just had a hysterectomy on Sept17th. I also have bipolar disorder,Crohn's disease,muscular dystrophy(Cmt),asthma,chronic pancreatitis,chronic broncitis,anxiety disorder,and the list goes on. Been really emotional since the hysterectomy.I Cry at the drop of a hat. I've never been pregnant,but have always wanted my own baby. I'm gonna be 35 this coming Feb..... Some times I think my parents should have been smacked around for procreating. I know I'm Being a Cry BABY. I'm just sick & tired of Being sick & tired.My 2 brothers have been Lucky so far & have been blessed with good Health. My mother died in 2004 of diabetes & several Other Health problems.She was only 45. My father has had 3 strokes & a few heart attackes... Oh did I Forget to mention he also has The diabetes,along with about 75% of The rest of my family...ok Well I'm takin a prescribed xanax and lay Down..lol I've worn myself out complaining.God bless

Mekay joined in and replied with this 5.3 years ago, 25 minutes later, 8 months after the original post[^] [v] #0

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Wow. I'm a smartie pants just saying...

EvangelineMade (OP) replied with this 5.3 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 months after the original post[^] [v] #0

FWIW, right after the surgery was way UP (moodwise), then some weeks of down-ish...

But after a while it got better. And has actually stayed better.

I'm still on the same drugs as before, but I'm not changing them, for the foreseeable future anyway. How much is therapy, and how much is/was hormones?

I don't know, but it doesn't matter!

JenniferS, I hope your recovery goes well. Just take it easy - I cannot stress how important that is!
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